Our 80/10/10 raw dog food recipes are precisely balanced ‘BARF’ ratio mixes. For experienced raw feeders who do their own additions and for elimination diets. One of our raw dog food mince ranges.
Written by Nick Thompson (vet) BSc (Hons) Path Sci., BVM&S, VetMFHom, MRCVS. Founding President of the Raw Feeding Veterinary Society. Petplan Vet of the Year Nominee 2009, 2015, 2017, 2018 & 2020. The practice of the Year Nominee 2018.
80/10/10 Introduction
All raw feeders come across the phrase ‘80 10 10‘ sooner or later. What does it mean in terms of raw dog food? Is it ‘complete’ as many suggest? How can we use 80/10/10 in a more species-appropriate diet? These are questions that are rarely answered square on, so I’m going to give you my take on this controversial topic.
What is 80/10/10?
This is the easy bit. The numbers stand for percentages referring to meat, organ and bony material. The diet is composed of 80% (usually by volume, but can be by weight) muscle meat. 10% organ meat, usually the solid organs like liver and kidney. 10% bone is then added for minerals, teeth cleaning and bulk.
Is 80/10/10 enough?
Most raw feeders try to create a diet that emulates, to a greater or lesser extent, the whole prey animal. And logically, this is what carnivores, even ‘facultative’ (able to eat non-prey food) carnivores like dogs are designed to eat.
This argument, although persuasive, is not the whole story, however. Dogs scavenge and hunt; they have throughout history and, if all the humans vanished from the earth, this is what they would go back to.
If you’re a hunter-scavenger, like a dog, wolf, dingo or hyena, then basically you eat anything edible. Unlike cats, who are ‘obligate’ (have to eat 100% prey material) carnivores, dogs just roam around hunting prey and looking for lunch, alive or dead or growing, wherever they can get it.
As you know, from watching your dog, they will eat horse, sheep and rabbit poo with great gusto. They will eat cat poo given half a chance. Obligate carnivores don’t; cats are never seen poo-eating, never seen picking berries off bushes or apples fallen in an orchard. Dogs, obviously, are not just big cats.
Some people, notably the ‘Prey Model’ brigade, will argue, with conviction, but little evidence, that dogs should be fed like cats. They insist on just using meat and prey-derived foodstuffs (organs, meat, bone) and the like. I reject this model. I don’t think you can just feed meat, bone and ‘organs’ and leave it at that.
The “80/10/10” feeding model, as well as ignoring some fruit, veg, grass and poo consumption, does not include hair, horn and hoof, other organs (brain, adrenals, eyes and testicles, for example), stomach and intestinal contents and soil.
Yes, dogs, would naturally eat soil – they naturally feed on the ground (soil). Why do you think they bury bones? To hide them for later, yes, but I also think to give them a good muck-marinade in pro-biotic dirt—clever old things.
Is 80/10/10 right?
If 80/10/10 were the whole story, then this would be the proportions we find in whole prey in nature. They’re not. In nature, the ratio of meat:offal:bone is about 40:25:12.5. So, for a start, the proportions in 80 10 10 do not reflect nature. For a second, the more mathematical among us will notice it doesn’t add up to 100%. What’s missing?
What’s missing is all the in-between bits that we otherwise forget – like blood (about 7%), eyes (<0.5%), skin and hooves etc. (approx 20%), testes/ovaries (<0.5%) and so on (spleen, pancreas, adrenal glands and thymus. In the practical world, it’s not possible or appealing to feed some of these things, so compromises have to be made. Desiccated powder products containing these organs are available from grass-fed New Zealand beef. Adding these to the diet every other week seems logical.
In the USA, it’s possible to buy brains from your abattoir and feed them to your dog. In the UK and Europe, since Mad Cow Disease, the feeding of nervous tissue like brains and spinal cord, and the feeding of glands like thyroid or adrenals has been banned. In the UK, you can buy, for example, veal brain, if that’s your cup of tea, but, the thing is, with human meat, it’s generally cooked before serving in this country. The feeding of raw nervous or glandular material is illegal in the UK. We don’t want a spate of Mad Dog Disease hitting the streets, do we?
What're the compromises with 80/10/10?
So if we buy 80/10/10 raw food as the foundation for our dog’s diet, what do we have to do to move it toward a more complete offering?
The answer, for me, is three-fold. You need to add a) blended fresh raw or lightly cooked green veg, b) vitamins and minerals and c) omega-3 fatty acids. Vitamins and minerals can come in the form of a synthetic supplement. That’s fair enough, but I think superior to that would be to feed a range of nuts, herbs and seeds on a rotating basis, changing every 1-3 months at the least.
Nuts are best served raw and soaked overnight, although this is a pain to do, I realise—anything but Macadamia works. Herbs can be any seasonal thing you can pick up in the garden or supermarket. Don’t give epileptic dogs lots of Rosemary, though – it’s stimulating. Seeds can be anything we eat: sunflower and pumpkin are some of my favourites. I put these bits into the blender with the greens, blend up to a smoothie consistency and pour on food, keep in the fridge for three days or freeze.
Omega-3 fatty acids come from fish, krill, algae and flax oil, although nuts and seeds contain some, too. Most people in the raw world use fish oil, mostly salmon oil. This is fine, but I’d suggest alternating with other fish oils and alternating these each month with plant-based omega-3 sources – both have unique strengths. Why miss out?
We’ve written an extensive list of foods your dog can eat (as well as what they shouldn’t!). But, what if, after all of this, your dog has gone off raw food? In this instance, it might have nothing to do with the ratio of food your feeding them, but simply the amount – usually it’s too much!
What's the conclusion on 80/10/10?
80/10/10 is great, but, as you now see, it’s not the whole picture. It is, though, the foundation for a really good diet if you just add some extra goodies. A variety of meats and minces is essential in all raw diets, and not just to appeal to the appetite of the dog; it’s essential to avoid excesses and deficiencies. All in all, 80 10 10 is a convenient foundation for your dog’s diet, but it’s only half the story. If you’d like to hear me cover more 80 10 10 raw feeding points, you can watch my video on what 80/10/10 means.
And now over to ProDog to tell you a bit more about their 80 10 10 raw dog food range…
About our 80/10/10 minces
Pure 80/10/10 raw dog food is a precisely balanced recipe, an exact 80/10/10 ‘BARF’ raw food ratio mix. Designed for more experienced raw feeders, for dogs on elimination diets, requiring a single protein source or dog owners who would like to be more involved with their dog’s meals by making their own additions – simply choose to add in vegetables, fruits and toppings to suit your dog’s individual needs.
About our raw food
Meal recipes created to deliver the required macronutrients to support your working dog’s development, health, and vitality. Based on the ‘pray model’, we formulate ProDog Raw food to meet the extreme demands placed on the bodies of working dogs. This means for domestic dogs, our meals provide an abundance of nutrients, fueling them to thrive too. Our quality raw food contains all of the healthy fats and species-appropriate proteins a dog requires regardless of their role in life. Plus, we ensure grains, fillers or any ingredient that does not support the canine digestive system are NOT included.
Available in 500g and 1kg tubs. Suitable for dogs 24 weeks + our Pure 80:10:10 range is created using the finest, ethically sourced, British ingredients from DEFRA approved local farms, meaning all our meat comes from human-quality production sources, operating with the best welfare practices and, wherever possible, the livestock is pasture reared.
ProDog 80/10/10 raw dog food recipes contain a minimum of 80% fresh, human-quality meat, 10% ground bone, highly beneficial to the digestive system and a source of protein, diverse minerals and healthy fats and 10% offal – rich in essential vitamins and minerals.
All of our meals are formulated in our dedicated production factory, and we operate small batch production, meaning better quality formulation and strict quality control protocol. In addition, all of our food is blast frozen to retain full nutritional merit from the freezer to the bowl.
To make life even easier, we’ve put together a selection of 15kg and 25kg bundles that contain exclusively or include Pure 80:10:10 meals; each is designed with particular needs in mind. Bundles offer one-click ordering, free delivery to UK standard shipping areas and discounted pricing.
Raw feeding tips
ProDog Raw’s mission is to help your dog thrive. We believe nutrition is the cornerstone of canine health and, as such, invest our all into providing fresh, natural, raw dog food, natural treats and nutritional dog supplements designed with 100% species-appropriate ingredients from human quality production sources, operating with the best possible welfare practices.
We advocate feeding your dog a variety of proteins; by incorporating a selection of protein options you provide your dog with vitamins and minerals from across the nutritional spectrum. If one meat type delivers a select range of nutrients, offering a diverse range of meats will ensure you fuel your dog in a nutritionally comprehensive way.
Variety equals nutritional balance!
Your dog’s individual requirements, breed, age, level of activity can all play a part in finding the combination of proteins, meal options and treat choices that will help them thrive. Each dog is unique and has specific nutritional needs. By offering a range of raw food and treat options, you will, over time, establish the perfect raw food diet for your dog.
Why not find out more about raw feeding or contact us today to speak with one of ProDog Raw’s dedicated feeding advice team, who will be ready to help you find the perfect raw feeding menu for your dog.
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